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11/06/2008

Ukraine likes to conjure up the magic word "Galicia" to create an identity of European belonging. Richard Wagner picks apart this myth-cum-trademark in an EU bid he believes is misplaced.

 
steve velychenko
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Why Mr. Wagner's arguments should have no place in EU debates.
Those who argue against the membership of one country or another in the EU should at least do so on rational grounds, without bad history and bad logic.
First, Mr Wagner does not seem to know that the bulk of present-day Ukrainian lands were under DIRECT Russian political rule only since the 1780s. That makes for a little more than 200 years. Does that suffice for a claim it has “traditionally answered to Moscow?” I think not. Mr. Wagner also dates a “fusion” with Russia back to Kievan Rus. Since neither Ukraine nor Russia existed in the 10th century, and since the for the inhabitants of the Kievan region at the time, the inhabitants of their north-eastern colonial fringe were about as far away as anybody could be from them, it is difficult to imagine what Mr. Wagner understands by “fusion.”
Second, Mr Wagner also seems to be ignorant of the fact that the Muscovite-Russian variant of Byzantine-Orthodoxy has little in common with any other, particularly its caesero-papism, which influenced Ukrainian lands only for the years when they belonged to the empire.
Third, yes, due to planned imperial government policies streaching back to the 18th century, and continued by the Soviet regime from the 1930s, there is a heavy proportion of Russian-speakers in the country today. But is Mr Wagner implying that language-use determines political loyalties. If he is, would he perhaps advocate the return of Ireland to England, or Brazil to Portugal? It is also true Ukraine remains for the most part a Russian economic colony, but why does he think “Orange revolutionaries” will not change this once they do get hold of the “political reigns?” Or, if European and US and Japanese corporations decide they want Ukrainian labour and resources? Need he be reminded of how many activists it took to separate the American colonies from Britain? Mr. Wagner should also take note that Mr Putin has seen to it that there are no oligarchic interests in Russia, whose political climate is quite unlike Ukraine’s to say the least. He need only have asked any Russian political refugee living in Ukraine and enjoying Ukrainian liberties. Finally, and perhaps most important does Mr Wagner think that the past determines the future? I was of the opinion the past merely shapes it.

Mr. Wagner talks of imperial desires. Yes, the world is a wicked place, but if two interests coincide does the moral worth of one negate the other? How would Mr Wager judge, for example the Hitler Stalin pact? Mr. Wagner goes on to mention the vexed matter of collaboration with the Nazi’s, claiming that all, rather than only some, western Ukrainians were involved. If this is to implicitly disqualify Ukrainians from EU membership and somehow isolate them from his “occidental idea,” he should perhaps take into account that Nazism was a European phenomenon, just like the inquisition, and that lots of western Europeans thought it a good thing, just like many supported the inquistion. Who has the right to cast the first stone?

I shall leave specialists on Galicia to point-out to Mr. Wagner the relevance of what he calls “the Galician myth-cum-trademark” for Kiev's EU bid,” and all his erroneous claims about that region. I will note only one. Habsburg rulers considered western Ukrainians their most loyal subjects, and national leaders in the early 20th century there were not separatists. Precisely because they, unlike Pilsudksi and the Poles, did not change horses in time and abandon Vienna, the Entente in 1918 and 1919 supported Poland and not the West Ukrainian Peoples Republic.


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